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Chapter One





Introduction to Intercultural Communication


Human


being


draw


close


to


one


another


by


their


common


culture,


but


habits


and


customs


keep


them


apart.










---Confucian Saying


1.


Definition



Intercultural


Communication


is


communication


between


people


whose


cultural


perceptions


and


symbol


systems are distinct enough to alter the communication event.



2. A short history of intercultural communication


2.1 The Burgeoning Period



The term


“Intercultural communication” itself did


not appear until Hall



s The silent language was published in 1959.




2.2 From 1960 to 1970


a.


Two preventative books reflect the continuous efforts made by scholars in the field in the 1960’s:



b.


Olive’s Culture and Communication (1962) and Smith’s Communication and Culture (1966)



c. The first college class in this field taught in 1966 at the University of Pittsburgh.


2.3 From 1971 to 1980



a. The 1970s witnessed rapid development in the field of intercultural communication.



b. In 1973, Samovar and Porter published Intercultural Communication: A reader


c. Indiana University awarded the first doctoral degree in intercultural communication.


d. Condon and Yousef’s Introduction to Intercultural Communication (1975)



2.4 From 1981 to the Present Time



a.


Condon and Yousef’s stress on cultural value orientations and communication behavior parallels



b.


Hofstede’s (1984) later work on cultural values



c .


Hall’s writing on high


-context and low-context cultures in Beyond Culture (1977).


d. Scholars in the early 1970s began to make their contributions in research and teaching by the 1980s.


3. Importance of Intercultural Communication


Three developments



3.1 The new technology


3.2 The new Population


3.3 The new Economic Arena


4. Studying Intercultural Communication


We have met the enemy, and he is us.




---Pogo



Three main obstacles:


First,




Culture lacks a distinct crystalline structure; it is often riddled with contradictions and paradoxes.


Second, Culture cannot be manipulated or held in check; therefore, it is difficult to conduct certain kinds of research on


this topic.


Third,



we study other cultures from the perspective of our own culture, so our observations and our conclusions are


tainted by our orientation.



5. Intercultural Communication


The main conceptions in intercultural communication:


Intercultural


communication:


Face-to-face


communication


between


people


from


differing


cultural


backgrounds.









Intercultural


communication


is


defined


as


the


extent


to


which


there


is


shared


interpersonal


communication


between


members of the same culture.


5.1 Host and Minority Culture


The host culture is the mainstream culture of any one particular country.



Minority cultures: cultural groups that are smaller in numerical terms in relation to the host culture.


5.2 Subcultures (Co- cultures)



Subculture: a smaller, possibly nonconformist, subgroup within the host culture.


E.G. :



Black American; Native American; Hispanic- American, Chinese-American, etc.


5.3 Multiculturalism



Multiculturalism is the official re


cognition of a country’s cultural and ethnic diversity (Hollway, 1992)



5.4 Cross-cultural Communication


-cultural


communication


is


face-to-face


communication


between


representatives


of


business,


government


and


professional groups from different cultures.




acy


is


one


of


the


oldest


forms


of


cross- cultural


communication.


Travel


and


tourism


is


a


second


form


of


cross-cultural communication.



3.A third form of cross- cultural communication unique to this has been the growth of the mass media.



Most recently, cross-cultural communication has been accelerated by cross-border information flows brought about by


computerization.


5.5 Principles of Intercultural Communication



Condon has highlighted three areas as most problematic in intercultural exchange:


ge barrier


ent values



ent patterns of behaviors. (Condon & Saito, 1974)


5.6 Rationale



Worldwide interest in intercultural communication grows out of


two assumptions


:


First, changes in technology, travel, economic and political systems, immigration patterns, and population density have


created a world in which we increasingly interact with people from different cultures.



Second, one’s cultural perceptions and experiences help determine how one sends and receives messages.



5.7 Approach



ental


to


our


approach


to


intercultural


communication


is


the


belief


that


all


forms


of


human


communication


involve action.



book takes a view of intercultural communication that is both pragmatic and philosophical.



5.8 Philosophy



First, it is to the advantage of all 5.5 billions of us who share the planet to improve our interpersonal and intercultural


communication abilities.


Second,


most


of


the


obstacles


to


understanding


can


be


overcome


with


motivation,


knowledge,


and


appreciation


of


cultural diversity.


Activities:




Right or Wrong?



?



You need to learn to accept and like other cultures.





































?



You need to respect the validity of other cultures.


?



Underneath, people are fundamentally the same.


?



Culture is pervasive.


?



I can do exactly what I want. My actions are independent of my culture.


?



I don’t have total freedom of choice in my behavior.



?



Culture and ethnicity are the same.


?



If we have more contact, intercultural understanding will improve.


?



Cultural worth is in the eye of the beholder.


?



The perceptions of the individual relate to the perceptions of the group.




Chapter Two




Language Use and Communication


?



?



You cannot speak of ocean to a well-fog, ----the culture of a narrow sphere.



You cannot speak of ice to a summer insect,----the creature of a season.



---Chang Tsu


Communication:


ability to share our ideas and feelings


the basis of all human contact.


1. Human Communication



1.1 Intentional and Unintentional Behavio


r


The


first


one


describes


communication


as


the


process


whereby


one


person


deliberately


attempts


to


convey


meaning


to


another.



The second school of thought proposes that the concept of intentionality fails to account for all the circumstances in which


messages are conveyed unintentionally.



1.2 A Definition of Communication


Communication occurs whenever meaning is attributed to behavior or the residue of behavior.



1.3 The Components of Communication


A.


The


Source


=>


B.


Encoding


=>



C.


The


Message


=>




D.


The


Channel


=>




E.


The


Receiver


=>


F.


Decoding


=>




G.


Feedback


2. Pragmatics: Language Use


2.1 The Problem


(1) We must first distinguish between using language to do something and using language in doing something.


e.g.



Hello



Goodbye



Pass the salt.



Please.



How old are you?



It’ s raining.



(2) What is (successful) linguistic communication?



How does (successful) communication work?



2.2 The Message Model of Linguistic of Linguistic Communication



Speaker




























Hearer


Message



























Message



Encoding




=?






Sounds




=?







Decoding


2.3 Problems with the Message Model



First, Disambiguation


Since many expressions are linguistically ambiguous, the hearer must determine which of the possible meanings of


an expression is the one the speaker intended as operative on that occasion.


eg1, flying planes can be dangerous.


eg2, A: We lived in Illinois, but we got Milwaukee’s weather.










B: Which was worse


Second, Underdetermination of reference


Third, underdetermination of communicative intent (by meaning)


Fourth, nonliterality


Fifth, indirection


Sixth, noncommunicative acts


2.4 An Inferential Approach to Communication



The basic idea:


linguistic communication is a kind of cooperative problem solving.


The Inferential Model of communication proposes that in the course of learning to speak our language we also learn how to


communicate in that language, and learning this involves acquiring a variety of shared beliefs or presumptions, as well as a


system of inferential strategies.


Presumptions:



1.


Linguistic Presumption




















2.


Communicative presumption



ption of literalness



















4.


Conversational presumption



2.5 Inferential Theories versus the Message Model


Six specific defects:


1. The Message Model cannot account for the use of ambiguous expressions


2.



Real world reference


3.



Communicative intentions


4.



Nonliteral communication


5.



Indirect communication


6.



Noncommunicative uses of language


3. The Characteristics of Communication


3.1 No Direct Mind-to-Mind Contact


It is impossible to share our feelings and experiences by means of direct mind-to-mind contact.


3.2 We can Only Infer


Because we do not have direct access to the thoughts and feelings of other human beings, we can only infer what they


are experiencing inside their individual homes, to continue our analogy.


3.3 Communication Is Symbolic


Symbols, by virtue of their standing for something else, give us an opportunity to share our personal realities.


3.4 Time-Binding Links Us Together


3.5 We Seeks to Define the World


3.6 Communication Has A Consequence



3.7 Communication Is Dynamic


3.8 Communication Is Contextual



3.9 Communication Is Self- Reflective


4. The Brain Is an Open System


First, this concept of the brain alerts us that while each of us can learn new ideas throughout the life, what we know at any


one instant is a product of what the brain has experienced.


Second, the notion of the brain as an open system reminds us that we can learn from each other.]


Third, because learning is a lifelong endeavor, we can use the information to which we are exposed to change the way we


perceive and interact with the world.


5. We Are Alike and We Are Different


We are alike:


First, everyone realizes at some point that life is finite.


Second, each of us discovers somewhat early in life that we are isolated from all other human beings.


Third, all of us are thrown into a world that forces us to make choices.



Finally, the world has no built-in scheme that gives it meaning.


We are different:


First, the external world impinges on our nerve endings, causing something to happen with us.



Second, we think about what is happening by employing symbols from our past.



Activities: Right or Wrong


?



?



Sophistication is a subjective concept which is “ in the eye of the beholder”



?



Realize that your language reflects and influences the way you se the world.


?



All cultures impose some constrains on the body.


?



Some language can’t distinguish between the present and the past.



?



All cultures express politeness by using words like “please” and “thank you”.



?



All cultures have standards for politeness and ways of being polite.


?



All cultures are concerned about face. This is what motivates politeness.


?



The concept of “face” is universal. Without it, there would be no politeness.



?



Your way of showing that you are paying attention may be considered inappropriate by other cultures.


?



All


cultures


require


and


value


politeness,


but


the


ways


in


which


the


politeness


is


achieved


may


vary


significantly.



Chapter Three



Culture and Communication


Culture is the medium evolved by humans to survive. Nothing in our lives is free from cultural influence. It is the keystone


in civilization



s arch and is the medium through which all of life



s events must flow. We are culture. (Edward T. Hall)


Culture also determines the content and conformation of the messages we send. This omnipresent quality of culture leads


hall


to


conclude


that



there


is


not


one


aspect


of


human


life


that


is


not


touched


and


altered


by


culture




(Edward


T


Hall,1977)



Culture and communication are so inextricably bound that most cultural anthropologists believe the terms are


virtually


synonymous. This relationship




is the key factor to understanding intercultural communication.


Studying intercultural communication without studying culture would be analogous to investigation the topic of physics


without looking at matter.


In this chapter,We shall explain why cultures develop, define culture, discuss the major components of culture, and link


culture to communication by offering a



model of intercultural communication that isolates the characteristics of culture


most directly related to communication.


1. Culture is our invisible teacher


1.1 The basic function of communication


People maintain cultures to deal with problems or matters that concern them.-------William A Haviland



It serves the basic need of laying out a predictable world in which each of us is firmly grounded and thus enable us to make


sense of our surroundings.



Malinowski: three types of needs:



Basic needs (food, shelter, physical protection)



Derived needs (organization of work, distribution of food, defense, social control)



Integrative needs (psychological security, social harmony, purpose in life)



1.2 Some Definitions of Culture


E.


Adamson


Hoebel


and


Everett


Frost:


culture


is


an



integrated


system


of


learned


behavior


patterns


which


are


characteristic of the members of a society and which are not the result of biological inheritance (Hoebel and Frost, 1976.6)



For them, culture is not genetically



predetermined or instinctive.





First, as all scholars of culture believe, culture is transmitted and maintained solely through communication and learning,


culture is learned.


Second, scholars who take the sweeping view believe, each individual is confined at birth to a specific geographic location


and thus exposed to certain messages while denied others.


e.g. Geert Hofstede, a psychological perspective, defining culture as



the collective programming of the mind which


distinguishes the members of one category of people from another



(Hofstede,1984). Both of these definitions stress the


mental conditioning that culture experiences impose.



Daniel Bates and Fred Plog: culture is a system of shared beliefs, values, customs, behaviors, and artifacts that the


member


of


a


society


use


to


cope


with


their


world


and


with


one


another,


and


that


are


transmitted


from


generation


to


generation through learning.



This definition included not only patterns of behaviors but also patterns of thought (shared meaning that the member


of a society attach to various phenomena, natural and intellectual, including religion and ideologies), artifacts (tools, pottery,


house,


machines,


works


of


art),


and


the


culturally


transmitted


skills


and


techniques


used


to


make


the


artifacts


(G


.Bates,


1990, 7)


We define culture as the deposit of knowledge, experience, beliefs, values, attitudes, meanings, hierarchies, religion,


notions of time, roles, spatial relations, concepts of the universe, and material objects and possessions acquired by a group


of people in the course of generations through individual and group striving. Culture can therefore include everything from


rites of passage to concepts of the soul.


1.3 The Characteristics of Culture


A. Culture is innate; it



s learned.



1. Without the advantage of learning from those who lived before us, we should not have culture. You can appreciate,


therefore, why we say that learning is the most important of all the characteristics of culture.



2.


Bates


and


Plog


note:


whether


we


feed


ourselves


by


growing


yams


or


hunting


wild


game


or


by


herding


camels


and


raising wheat, whether we explain a thunderstorm by attributing it to meteorological conditions or to a fight among the gods



such thins are determined by what we learn as part of our enculturation (Bates and Plog,1990,19).



The term enculturation denotes the total activity of learning one



s culture. As Hoebel and Frost say,



conscious or un


conscious conditioning occurring within that process whereby the individual, as child and adult, achieves competence in a


particular culture




3. Enculturation takes place through


interaction (


your parents kiss you and you learn about kissing




whom to kiss,


when to kiss, and so on


), observation


(you watch your father do most of the driving of the family car and you learn about


gender roles




what a man does, what a woman does), and


imitation


(you laugh at the same jokes your parents laugh at


and you learn about humor



it is funny if someone slips as long as he or she does not get hurt).


e.g. The mouth maintains silence in order to hear the heart talk. This saying expresses the value Belgians place on intuition


and feelings in interaction.


He who speaks has no knowledge, and he who has knowledge does not speak. This saying from Japan reinforces the value


of silence.


We concluded our description of the first characteristic of culture by reminding you of how our discussion directly relates to


intercultural communication.


First, many of the behaviors we label as cultural are only automatic and invisible, but also engaged in without our being


aware of them.



Second, common experience produces common behaviors.



B. Culture is transmitted from Generation to Generation


For culture to exist and endure, they must endure that their crucial message and elements are passed on.



Richard


Brislin:


if


there


are


values


considered


central


to


a


society


that


have


existed


for


many


years,


there


must


be


transmitted


from


one


generation


to


another.


(Brislin,1993,6).


This


idea


supports


our


assertion


that


culture


and


communication are linked: it is communication that makes culture a continuous process, for once culture habits, principles,


values, attitudes, and the like are



formulated


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they are communicated to each individual.



The content of culture is what gets transferred from generation to generation.


e.g. American tell each generation to always look forward.



In China, the message is to look to the past for guidance and strength..


For Mexicans and Native Americans, the message is that cooperation is more important than the contest.


In Korea, the message is to respect and treasure the elderly.



C . Culture is based on Symbols


Our symbol



making ability enable us to both learn our culture and pass it on from individual to individual, group to group,


and generation to generation.


The portability of symbols allows us to package and store them as well as transmit them. The mind, books, pictures, films,


videos, computer disk and the like enable a culture to preserve what it deems to be important and worthy of transmission.


Culture Is therefore historical and preservable.


D Culture is subject to Change


Cultures are dynamic systems that do not exist in a vacuum, so they are subject to change.


Cultures change through several mechanisms, the two most common are


innovation


and


diffusion.


Innovation


is


usually


defined


as


the


discovery


of


new


practices,


tools,


or


concepts


that


many


members


of


the


culture


eventually accept and that may produce slight changes in social habits and behaviors (Nanda, 1994, 26)


Diffusion is the borrowing by one culture from another and another way in which changes occurs


E. Culture is integrated


The nature of language makes it impossible to do otherwise, yet in reality culture functions as an integrated whole. This one


aspect of culture has altered American attitudes, values, and behaviors.


F Culture is Ethnocentric


William Sumner: defined ethnocentrism as



the technical name for the view of things in which one



s own group is the


center of everything, and all others are scaled and rated with reference to it



(Sumner,1940,13)


Ethnocentric is the perceptual lens through which cultures interpret and judge each other.


Ethnocentric is found in every culture.


The logical extensions of Ethnocentric are


detachment


and


division


, which can take a variety of forms, including war.


e.g. East Indians looking down on the Pakistanis, the Japanese feeling superior to the Chinese, and ethnic rivalries causing


strife between Serbs and Croats in the former Yugoslavia.



Why culture is such a puissant influence on all our lives?


The life history of the individual is first and foremost an accommodation to the patterns and standards traditionally handed


down in his community. From the moment of his birth the customs into which he is born shape his experience and behavior.


By the time he can he the little creature of his culture, and by the time he is grown and able to take part in its activities his


impossibilities.


2. Language and Culture


Language and culture are inextricably linked, so that learning language means learning culture and vice versa.


With language and culture so inextricably linked, it is obvious that a language learner has more to do than master a new


grammar and vocabulary. He must also learn what utterances are appropriate to particular situations.



ng Culture


In


order


to


successfully


integrate


considerations of


cultural


appropriacy


into


language


teaching,


it


is


necessary


that


both


teacher and students examine their own assumptions of what is natural. This mutual exploration, and the establishment of


the relativity of what is considered to be natural, allows participants from both cultures to be both teachers and learners.


The


mayor


skills


involved


are


the


ability


to


suspend


judgment,


to


analyze


a


situation


as


a


native


of


that


culture


would


analyze it, and choose acourse of action that is most culturally appropriate to the situation.


4. Forms of Intercultural Communication


Interracial communication occurs when source and receiver are from different races. The team race pertains to physical


characteristics,


such


as


color


of


skin,


contour


of


head,


shape


of


eyes,


texture


of


hair,


and


the


like.


Interethnic


communication


occurs


when


the


participants


are


of


the


same


race


but


of


different


ethnic


origins


or


ultural communication is communication between members of the same culture.




Two things should be obvious at this point in our description of the forms of intercultural communication.



First, many people hold membership in a number of different groups and co-cultures are also influenced by the norms and


values of the dominant culture. As Julia Wood points out, these affiliations can be based on race, ethnic background,


gender, age, sexual preference, and so forth (Wood, 1994, 157).


Second,


although


there


might


be


minor


distinctions


among


instances


of


interracial,


interethnic,


and


intercultural


communication. They all share the same processes and elements.


Two essential characteristics of culture can be applied to co-cultures.



First, the process by which culture dictates what one experiences.


Second, the process whereby culture, through carriers transmits these experiences so that they are learned by each new set


of members-be they children or adul


ts.


5. An Intercultural Communication


(P119)



In this figure, three cultures are represented by three geometric shapes: Cultures A and B are similar to one another and are


represented,


respectively,


by


a


square


and


an


irregular


octagon


that


resembles


a


square;


and


Culture


C,


which


is


quite


different from Cultures A and B, is distinguished from both by its circular shape and its distance from Cultures A and B.


Culture



s influence on intercultural communication is a function of the dissimilarity of the cultures, which is indicated in


the


model


by


the


degree


of


change


in


the


pattern


of


the


message


arrows.


The


change


that


occurs


in


messages


between


Cultures A and B is much less than that in messages between Cultures A and C and between Cultures B and C. This is


because Cultures A and B are similar. Hence, the repertories of social reality, communicative behaviors, and meanings are


similar and the decoding process produces results compatible with the original content of the message. Because Culture C is


quite different from Cultures A and B, the decoded message is different and resembles more closely the patterns of Culture


C.


6. Elements of Intercultural Communication


These elements fall into three general groupings- perception, verbal processes, and nonverbal processes.


6.1








Perception


Marshall


Singer


says:



the


process


by


which


an


individual


selects,


evaluates,


and


organizes


stimuli


from


the


external


world




(Singer, 1987, 9) Perception is an internal process whereby


we convert


the physical energies of the


world into


meaningful internal experiences


First, people behave as they do because of the ways in which they perceive the world.


Second, one learns these perceptions, and the behaviors they produce, as part of one



s cultural experiences.


The three major socio-cultural elements that directly influence the meanings we attach to our perceptions are as follows:


beliefs, values, and attitudes; world view; and social organization.


A



Beliefs ,Values ,and Attitude Systems


Beliefs are subjective probabilities that some object or event is related to some other object or event or to some value,


concept, or attribute.


For example, we have beliefs about religion (Jesus is the son of God), events (the Desert Storm war was necessary), other


people (I know John is smart), and even ourselves (I am very witty).



Values are the evaluative components of our belief, value, and attitude systems. Values generally are normative in that


they inform a member of a culture what is good and bad, right and wrong, true and false, positive and negative, and the like.


An


attitude


is


a


learned


tendency


to


respond


in


a


consistent


manner


to


a


given


object


of


orientation.


Our


attitudes


prepare us to react to the objects and events in our environment.



B




World View


World


view


is


most


important


because


it


is


a


culture



s


orientation


toward


such


things


as


God,


nature,


life,


death,


the


universe,


and


the


other


philosophical


issues


concerned


with


the


meaning


of


life


and



view


influences


a


culture at a very deep and profound level. Its effects often are quite subtle and do not reveal themselves in obvious ways. It


might be helpful to think of a culture



s world view as a pebble tossed into a pond.



C



Social Organization


The manner in which a culture organizes itself is reflected in that culture



s institutions. These institutions have a variety of


configurations and can be formal or informal. Our schools, families, and governments all help determine how we perceive


the world and behave in it.


The family is also important because by the time the other major


cultural institutions influence the child, the family has


already exposed it to countless experiences.



School, whether it be a private academic institution or a thatched hut, is another social organization that exerts its influence


on perception and communication.


6.2 V


erbal Processes


A . Verbal Language


Language


is


an


organized,


generally


agreed


upon,


learned


symbol


system


used


to


represent


the


experiences


within


a


geographic or cultural community.


B . Patterns of Though


6.3 Nonverbal Processes


A



Bodily Behavior


In


Germany,


women


as


well


as


men


shake


hands


at


the


outset


of


every


social


encounter;


in


the


United


States,


women


seldom shake hands.


B



Concept of Time


The Germans and the Swiss are even more aware of time than we are. For them, trains, planes, and meals must always be


on time.


C



Use of Space


Americans



prefer


to


sit


face-to-face


or


at


right


angles


to


one


another,


whereas


Chinese


generally


prefer


side-by-side


seating.




Chapter 4: Culture Diversity in



Perception



Warming Exercises


are the different opinions about moon between cultures?


RE:



American perception: they often see a man in the moon, many Native Americans perceive a rabbit.


Chinese perception: they claim that a lady Chang Er who lives on the moon is fleeing her husband.


Samoans’


perception: they report that a woman is weaving.


does “V” symbolize in American and Australian culture?




Re:



Americans think the gesture that is made with two fingers usually represents victory.


Australians equate this gesture with a rude American one which is usually made with the middle finger.





In both of these examples, the external objects (moon and hands) are the same, yet the response



are different.





The reason is perception.


is perception?


Re: Perception is the means by which we make sense of our physical and social world.


must we learn perception in intercultural communication?



Re: Because our information and knowledge of



external physical and social world are mediated by perceptual processes,


perception is primary in th


e study of intercultural communication. As Trenholm and Jensen remind us, “culture is that


makes social cognitions ‘social’”.



1. Understanding Perception







----the process of selecting, organizing ,and interpreting sensory data in a way that enable us to make sense of our


world.







----based on beliefs, values, and attitude systems.


1) Beliefs are our convictions in the truth of something.



with or without proof.


2) An attitude is a combination of beliefs about a subject, feeling toward it ,and any predisposition to act toward it.


3) Values are enduring attitudes about the preferability of one belief over another.


Phi


2. Stages of Process of Perception



The first stage is recognition or identification, in which a configuration of light or sound waves is identified.



E.g. the perception of a car or music.



At the second stage, the interpretation and evaluation which has been identified take place.


The result of this process is not the same for all people, however,



the process is learned



therefore influenced primarily


by culture.


How we interpret and evaluate what we hear is very much a function of our culture.


1.1 Culture and Perception


Culture primarily determines the meanings we apply to the stimuli that reaches us. Not everyone in a particular culture is


exactly the same. There is diversity within cultures just as there is diversity between cultures.





American and Japanese are different in the credibility when they talk.


Here are some stories to illustrate the differences in credibility between American and Japanese.


American 1: Do you like the music?

















American 2: No. It



s too noisy.




American 1: Do you like the music?

















Chinese:




It



s a bit noisy. Except for that, all is good.



As for Americans, credible people seem to be direct, rational, decisive, unyielding, and confident.



Once the US humor writer Dave Barry was in Japan. He had to fly from Tokyo to Osaka. So he went to the airport for the


ticket.


DB: A ticket to Osaka please.


Ticket seller with smile: ah, ticket to Osaka, just a moment please.


DB: How much?


Ticket seller: It



s really good to take a train from Tokyo to Osaka. You can have some nice views on your way. Do you


want a














train ticket?


DB: No. an airline ticket, please.


Ticket seller: ah




actually, it is good to take a bus. It is fully equipped, very comfortable. How about a bus ticket?



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