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2014-2015
学年
第二学期
专题口译
第十二周
IT
科技
单元
E-C
课下材料
1995
年
乔布斯:遗失的访谈(节选)
After serious disagreements with
Apple’
s CEO, John Sculley, Steve left
the company in 1985.
Bob:
Tell us about your
departure from Apple.
Steve:
Oh it was very painful and I am not even sure if I
want to talk about it. What can I say? I
hired the wrong guy.
Bob:
That was Sculley?
Steve:
Yeah, and he
destroyed everything I spent 10 years working for.
Starting with me, but that
wasn’t the
saddest part.
I would have gladly left
Apple if Apple
would’ve
turned out like I wanted
it to. He
basically got on a rocket ship that is about to
leave the pad, and the rocket ship left the
pad, and he kind of went into his head,
and he got confused and thought that he built the
rocket
ship, and he kind of changed the
trajectory, so that it was inevitably gonna crash
into the ground.
Bob:
But there was always … in
Pre
-Macintosh days and early Macintosh
days, there was always
Steven and John
show. You two were kinda joined at the hip for a
while there.
Steve:
That’s right.
Bob:
And then something
happened to split you, what was that, what was
that catalyst?
Steve:
Well,
what
happened
was
…
that
the
industry
went
into
a
recession
in
late
1984
.
Sales
started seriously contracted,
and John didn’t know what to do, and he
had not a clue.
And there was a leadership vacuum at
the top of Apple. There were fairly strong general
managers
running the divisions, and I
was running the Macintosh division, somebody else
was running the
Apple
II
division
etc.
There
were
some
problems
with
some
of
the
divisions,
and
there
was
a
person running the storage division
that was completely out of lunch. A bunch of
things needed to
be changed.
But all those problems got
put into a pressure cooker, because of this
contraction in the market
place, and
there was no leadership, and John was in a
situation where the board was not happy,
and where he was probably not long for
the company. And one thing I did not ever see
about John,
until that time was, he had
incredible survival instinct. Someone once told
me:
“this guy didn’t get
to
be the this you know president of Pepsi Cola
without these kinds
of instincts”, and
it was true.
And
John decided that a really good person to be the
root of all the problems would be me. And so
we came to loggerheads, and John had
cultivated a very close relationship with the
board, and they
believed him.
S
o that’s what happened.
Bob:
So there were competing
visions for the company?
Steve:
Oh
clearly
…
well…
not
so
much
competing
visions
for
the
company.
Because
I
don’t
think
John had a vision for the company.
Bob:
Well, I guess I’m
asking was what was your vision
that
lost out in this instance?
Steve:
It wasn’t an issue of
vision
, it was an issue of execution.
In a sense that my belief was that
Apple needed much stronger leadership
to sort of unite these various factions that we
created with
divisions,
that
Macintosh
was
the
future
of
Apple,
that
we
needed
to
rein
back
expenses
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