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Jack Ma Davos 2015 interview

C: Wellcome Jack Ma

M: thank you

C:

We’ve

all

become

very

cognitive

Jack

and

his

story

and

when

Alibaba

went

public

with

the

largest IPO in history, we knew a lot more about him, so I want to talk about his personal story, I

want to talk about how many times he tried and failed, and what kept him going, I want to talk

about

where

he

is

today

and

how

he

got

here

and

where

he

is

going

and

how expects

to

get

there and if he gets there what will it all mean for him and for the people that he wants to inspire,

so, begin with this question, though, Jack, why are you back at Davos.

M:

It’s a long break for seven years, I think my last time trip here was 2008,

but I was coming for

your to find one for young global leader for tomorrow, and I think remember I never heard about

a

Davos

when

I

came,

but

when

I

came

out

I

and

a

Switzerland,

so

many

young

people

demonstrate was such a horrible scene that I was a net and ask them who wanted to do it, they

say NT globalization and as why grandmas

this is a great thing, why people and you know don’t

like it, and then we come all the way for two hours here, there

’s some Russian gone there’s a

people checking out the all go is that there’s follower zap reason, we’re going to go into that, but

when I joined the fun at the young global leader, I was thrilled by so many ideas for the first of

three four years, I’ve learned what does the globalization mean, what is the copper to citizenship

mean,

what

about

social

responsibility

mean,

how

all

these

new

ideas

and

see

so

many

great

leaders

talking

about

leadership

and

that

benefit

a

lot

and

a

year

2008,

and

2009

when

the

financial

crisis

came,

I

think

about

it

go

back

to work

because

we

can

never

win

the

world by

talking,

so

go

back

to

spend

seven

years,

now

I

come

back,

I

think

it’s

time

to

do

something

return, so I learned so much, let’s talk about years ago so why I should not talking to young global

leader of today shelling with them how we gone.

C: Through that was the thing, let’s

start with where you are today just how big is all about, how

many people come every day, I mean people come in a week how fast is it growing.

M: yeah, we have for over a hundred million buyers visiting our site shop in our site our everyday,

and we create a hundred million and everything we created 14 million jobs for china directly and

indirectly, and we grow from 18 people to 30000 people, meeting people in my apartment to now,

we have a full big campers compared to 15 years ago, we were big but compared to 15 years later

with to a baby.

C: And a big will you be 15 years from them.

M: I think 15 years ago, I told my team that 15 years in the past 15 years we go from nothing to

this

size,

and

15

years

later

I

wanted

people

see

know

about

alibaba

no

top

up,

because

it’s

already

everywhere,

I

want

15

years

ago

when

we

talk

about

what

is

e-commerce

why

small

business can using this e-commerce this internet can do business cross the nation, and I hope 15

years

later

people

forget

about

e-

commerce,

because

they

think

it’s

mega

elect

ricity

nobody

think is a high-

tech today, now this is something that I don’t want 15 years later we still walk on

the straight talking about why and how e-commerce can help people.

C: Talk about the IPO you did it exceed your expectations

M: well, it’s a p

retty small IPO 250.

C: yeah, two largest not to do in the history, number two was Chinese bank.

M: Thank you, I remember your tooth and while we went to raise some five minutes remaining

venture capitalist daughters in the USA and got reject, and I say we come back raising some a

little bit more, but I think it you know what we think more about is for 225 billion dollars how we

can spend the money efficiently, because this is not the money visit the trust from the world, the

trust from those people they want you to better jobs to help more people, they want have a good

return.

So

I

think

give

me more

pressure

because

when

our

market

cap

is

bigger

than

IBM

or

someday were bigger than Walmart, we are one of the top 10 15 largest market cap company in

the world, I told

my team and myself is that ture, we’re not that good because years ago people

say a lot about the models terrible dose not make money have this and that all the big bad things,

because emma’s battery

-

based better, google is better and there’s no

such model like alibaba in

the USA, so I told myself and people, we will better than people thought, but today when we got

that big size I

said no, we’re not that good as people thought, we were just a company 15 years

old, average age is twenty-seven twenty-eight year, so young people were doing something that

human being have never tried.

C: so. What I want to talk about the future, let me take you back to

谈未来（

3:32

）

Compared to 15 years ago, we are big; but compared to 15 years later, we are still a baby. I think

15 years ago, I told my team that ... in the past 15 years, we grew from nothing to this size, and

15 years later, I want people see no about Alibaba, no Taobao, because it is already everywhere.

15 years

ago,

when

we

talked

about

what

is

e-commerce,

why

small

businesses

can

[use]

this

e-commerce

and

this

Internet

and

do

business

across

the

nation;

and

I

hope

15

years

later,

people forget about e-commerce, because they think it is like electricity

–

nobody think it is a

high-tech today. I don't want 15 years later, we still walk on the street, talking about why and

how e-commerce can help people.

2.

谈遭拒（

8:25

）

I think we have to get used to it. We are not that good; even today, we are still having a lot of

people [who] reject us.

3. < /p>

谈学英语（

9:51

）

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I

don't

know

why

at

12

or

13

years

old,

or

that

time,

I

suddenly

fell

love

into

that

language,

English. And there's no place where you can learn English at that time; there's no book, English

books. So I went to the Hangzhou Hotel, now called the Hangzhou Shangri-la Hotel, because that

was the hotel ... [that] can receive the foreign visitors. So every morning

–

for 9 years

–

I showed

them

around

as

a

free

guide,

and

they

taught

me

English.

And

I

think

that

changed

me.

I

am

100% made in China; I never got one day's training outside China...So I think that was the 9 years

–

these

Western

tourists

opened

my

mind,

because

everything

they

told

me

was

so

different

from

the

things

I

learnt

from

the

schools,

and

from

my

parents.

So

now

I

have

had

a

habit

–

whatever I see [and] whatever I read, I use my mind [to] think about for 2 minutes.

4.

谈资金（

18:26

）

(I have never got money from the Chinese government.) I wanted it in the beginning, but later I

don't want it, because I think that if the company [is] always thinking about picking money off the

government's pocket, that company is a rubbish. Think about how can you make money from the

customers and the market, and then help the customers succeed. That's our philosophy. (I think

the relationship with the government for us is very interesting...I learned that you should never

rely on government organisation[s] to do e-commerce. And I started the business, [and] I told the

people in [my] team that

5.

谈一切皆有可能（

25:11

）