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哈佛大学幸福课第二十二课中英文讲义



哈佛学习障碍协会



Harvard Learning Challenged Association


受到这门课的启发



我们将举行一个论坛



And we are hosting a forum inspired by this class


名叫学习缺陷



entitled Learning Disabilities


学习障碍和积极心理学



Learning Challenges and Positive Psychology


很多校内学生都有学习缺陷



A


lot


of


students


on


campus


are


registered


with


learning


disabilities


有些甚至有学习障碍



and even more have learning challenges


包括学习困难和长期拖延症



which


can


include


a


difficulty


studying


or


chronic


procrastination


而且



很多学习障碍



Also, a lot of learning disabilities


都与抑郁症高发率和低自尊有关



are


associated


with


higher


rates


of


depression


and


low


self-esteem


所以在这个论坛上



我们会问



So in this forum, we hope to ask questions like



如何积极看待学习障碍


?


< br>


我们如何用积极心理学



And


进一步探索这片研究领域


?


to further explore this field of studying?


欢迎大家参加



不管是你有学习障碍



All are welcome, whether you have learning challenge


还是你的朋友



or your friend does


或者你最近遇到学习困难



or you just have a tough time studying


或者你只是感兴趣



or you are just interested


都请来参加



Please come and join us


时间很方便



It's convenient time


一周后


< br>星期二


11


点半



one week from now, Tuesday 11:

< br>地点是


Adams


宿舍音乐院



at the Adams House Conservatory


就在入口和


Adams


宿舍的食堂中间



which is between the entrance and the dining hall of Adams


House


记住在日程表上标出来了



So mark your calendars


这会是一次很愉快的讨论



希望到时能见到大家



It should a good discussion. We hope we'll see you there


非常谢谢



Thank you so much


我叫


Holly


My name is Holly


我是校内一个协会的主席



And I'm the president of an organization on campus


这个协会叫哈佛大学领导才能协会



called the Leadership Institute at Harvard College


David


和我想简单跟大 家介绍一下我们的协会



And David and I want to just quickly mention what the club


does


我们的一位创立人就是你们的助教


John Deutch


One of our founders actually is one of your TFs-John Deutch


他几年前开始成立这个协会



over here helped get the group started a few years back


简单来说



我们的协会组织各种活动



So very briefly what the club has-forming programs


旨在提高校内学生的领导能力



all aimed up promoting leadership on campus


我们有一个发展活动



在这个活动里



我们会请人



We have a development program where we bring in speakers


在研讨会和互动会上演讲



to work on workshops and interactive seminars


教会我们真正有用的技巧



that help all of us on really useful skills


例如主持会议



谈判



公众演讲



like running a meeting and negotiation and public speaking


这些活动对所有本科生免费开放



They are all free and open to all undergraduates


我们还会举行午餐会和论坛



让学生主席



We also enable collaboration between student presidents


总编辑



chief editors


校园队长进行合作



captains on campus through luncheons and discussion forums


我们还有一个拓展计划训练哈佛本科生



We


have


an


outreach


program


where


we


train


Harvard


undergraduates


当领导才能课程的讲师



as instructors for leadership curriculum


我们有一个长达一年的活动



每周六举行



And we run a one year program on Saturdays


是和我们这里的


Cambridge


中学生一起参加的



with middle school students here at Cambridge


最后



我们正在成立一份专注于领导才能的杂志



And


lastly,


we


are


starting


a


student


leadership


magazine


在将来不久就会发行



that will be distributed in the future


大家好



我叫


David Tebaldi


Hey guys, My name is David Tebaldi


我是领导才能协会发展领导才能活动的



I'm the leadership development initiative director


首要负责人



at the Leadership Institute


我来为大家简单介绍一下



I'm here to give you a little bit of idea


focused


我们秋季会有什么活动



of what's in store for the fall


首先我们会举行主席论坛



First of all we have the Presidents Forum


这是一个聚集全校



which is a banquet that brings together the students all across


the


学生领导的宴会



students leaders from all across the campus


他们会分享他们



to discuss their own experiences


对领导才能以及相关挑战的经验



with leadership and challenges related to that


然后我们会出版我们第一份杂志



非常激动人心



Afterwards we had a very first magazine coming out which is


pretty exciting


里面会有很多文章关于以前



It'll have a lot of articles about leaders that we


主持过活动的领导



hosted the past events


以及他们在领导才能这方面的经验



and their own experience with leadership


我们接下来还会有很多活动



正如


Holly


刚才提到



We


have


a


lot


of


other


events


following


that


as


Holly


mentioned before


我们会有关于谈判和公众演讲的活动



with


negotiations


and


a


lot


of


public


speaking


events


are


in


store


如果你们想了解更多



If you'd like to know more


请搜索哈佛大学领导才能协会



you can just google leadership institute at Harvard college


大家就能找到我们的网页



and you should be able to find our website


谢谢你们



Thank you for your time


希望在下一年的活动上能看到大家



And I hope to see you at some of our events next year


我们今天早上和班上的助教吃了早餐



So we had a breakfast this morning with the teaching staff of


this class


这是我们最后一次的早餐聚餐



It was our final breakfast get-together


我有点伤心



And I'm a little bit sad


希望上完这节课后我能开心一点



So hopefully I'll be happier by the end of the class


今天我们会讲完自尊



Today we'll finish up on self-esteem


下节课是我们最后一次上课



and the next time is the last time we meet


至少是这个学期



for this semester at least


我会总结一下我们讲过的内容



And I'll summarize what we have done


我们讲过的



where we have been


和我们将要讲的内容



and all the places that we will go


先回顾一下我们讲过的



Just a recap on what we did


就在幻灯片上



which is on the slide now


有很多研究



There's been a lot of research


有很多观点都说了自尊有多重要



a lot of talk of how important self-esteem is


自尊确实很重要



and it is important


有研究表明它与我们的健康



There's


research


suggesting


that


it's


connected


to


our


well


being


成功有关



低自尊通常与犯罪



to our success that is inversely related to crime


00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,400


药物滥用



substance abuse


心情低落



焦虑



抑郁有关



unhappiness, anxiety, depression


所以自尊很重要



这我们知道



So self- esteem is important - we know that


但是在自尊这个课题里



也不是天下太平的



However, not all was well in self-esteem land


我们上节课讲过了



as we discussed last time


问题之一就是自相矛盾的证据



Part of the problem is that there is contradictory evidence


一方面



On the one hand


高自尊的人通常都仁慈



慷慨和富有同情心



self- esteem


is


associated


with


benevolence


and


generosity


and empathy


但另一方面



on the other hand


高自尊的人又会表现出敌意



high


self-esteem


has


been


shown


to


be


hostility


缺乏合作精神



有抵触情绪



lack of cooperation, defensiveness


另一个问题就是人们误解



There's also misunderstanding about or


自尊对表现的影响



about how self-esteem affects performance


对幸福的影响



how it affects happiness


以及当中的原因



and where that comes from


自尊的矛盾



The paradox of self-esteem


有时候我们觉得自己表现得很优秀



associated


with


Sometimes we feel like we are doing so well


受到很多赞扬



we are getting so many accolades


但自尊上升后



很快又回落到基本水平



our self-esteem increases only to go back to its base level


甚至更糟



only worse


因为我们要尽更大努力



because now we have to do even more


才能让自尊回到基本水平



to come back to our base level of self-esteem


我们要得到更多的赞扬



have to get more accolades


取得更多的成就



more achievements


做什么都不够了



Nothing is enough anymore


所以有证明表明自尊的来源



So there are these contradictory evidence


以及它的后果



where self-esteem comes from


存在矛盾



and its consequences


解释这些矛盾的方法之一就是借鉴别人的研究



And one of the ways to explain it is by drawing on the work


例如


Maslow


of people like Maslow


Nathaniel Branden


people like Nathaniel Branden


或者


Carl Rogers, Rollo May Lovinger


people like Carl Rogers, Rollo May. Lovinger


看看我们能怎么分解自尊的基本构成



to


see


how


we


can


perhaps


break


down


self- esteem


into


its


components


这就是我的论文的内容



that's what my dissertation did


也是我上节课跟大家讲的内容



this is what I presented to you in the previous class


基本上就是讲了自尊这个领域里的研究人员的观点



basically take the ideas of the select field researchers


那些思考这个问题的人



who had been thinking about it


例如马路对面的教育学院的


Robert Kegan


people like Robert Kegan across the road from the Ed school


他研究自尊的角度更倾向于发展心理学



thinking about self-esteem more developmentally


我给大家介绍了那个渐成模型



渐成



And I presented the epigenetic model




epigenetic


再说一次



它的意思就是必须实现了一层



once again, meaning that one level has to be fulfilled


或者至少部分实现了一层



才能去到下一层



or at least partly fulfilled before we can go the next level


128


这三层分别是依赖型自尊



And the three levels are dependent self-esteem


独立型自尊



independent self-esteem


和无条件型自尊



and unconditional self-esteem


依赖型自尊



它有两个构成部分



Dependent self-esteem - the two components of it


首先



first of all


有高度依赖性自尊的人时刻需要他人的赞扬



person with high dependence needs the accolades of others


constantly


不管是选择职业



还是决定下午做什么这样的小事



chooses whether it's a career path or what to do this afternoon


都是根据他人的认同来做决定的



based on how much approval that will gain him or her


有依赖型自尊的人



Person with dependent self-esteem


在能力感方面



when it comes to competence


总是拿自己跟别人比较



always compares him or herself to others


我比他们好还是差


?


比他们优秀还是不如他们


?


Am I better or am I worse? Superior or inferior?


独立型自尊是一种取决于自我的自尊



Independent


self-esteem


is


self-esteem


that's


contingent


on


the self


这样的人在评价自己时



in terms of how I evaluate myself


用的是自己的意见



that's my internal voice that's speaking


他们的能力感取决于



In terms of how my levels of competence are determined


自己认为自己进步了多少



it depends on how much I have improved


改善了多少



how much better I've got


觉得自己的潜力发挥了多少



how much I feel that I have fulfilled my potential


这就是独立型自尊



That's independent self-esteem


并不取决于他人的言论或想法



not contingent on what other people say or think


无条件型自尊是最高层次的自尊



Unconditional self-esteem is the highest level


也就是


Maslow

< p>
所说的



自我实现



the


level


that


Maslow


would


talk


about


-



self- actualization


David Schnarch


所 说的



分化良好型



what David Schnarch talks about as



想被了解



而不是被认可



or


at


the


level


of


being


known


rather


than


desiring


to


be


validated


无条件型自尊是指我们的自尊高到



Unconditional


self-esteem


is


when


our


self-esteem


is


high


enough


让我们对自己感觉很好



we feel good enough about ourselves


所以我们并不在乎别人怎么看自己



not to be concerned with evaluations with others


甚至不在乎自己怎么看自己



or even with self evaluations


在比较方面



In terms of comparison


我们不会比较



我们是相互依存的



we don't compare; we are inter-dependent


相互联系的



connected to others


我上节课举的一个例子是写书



So the example that I gave last time is of a book


假设我出版一本书



我是一个高度依赖型自尊的人



Let's


say


I


publish


a


book


and


I


have


high


self-esteem


首先



我写这本书



First of all, I write it


我出版这本书



是为了得到赞扬



I publish it so that I can get accolades


我的首要动机是获得外界认同



dependent


My primary motivation is external approval


我的首要动机是想出版一本



My primary motivation is wanting to bring out a book


比别人的书都好的书



that will be better than the other books out there


相比较而获得的能力感



以及取决于外界



so relative competence as well as externally other- determined


又假设我写了一本书



So if I bring in a book and write a book


我是一个高度独立型自尊的人



and I have high independent self-esteem


我写了书



我自己评价



I write it and I evaluate it myself



这是一 本好书



或者



这 本书不怎么样




需要修改



needs improvement


在比较方面



In terms of comparison


我跟自己比较




我比起刚开始写时进步了很多



I


compare


to


myself


-



improved


a


lot


since


I


started


writing


这本书比我之前一本要好



This book is actually better than my previous book


我的书写得更真实了



My work has become more authentic, more real.


这是独立型自尊的评价



That's independent self-esteem evaluation


无条件型自尊



Unconditional self-esteem


是我们所知的最高层次自尊



the highest level that we know of:


我写了一本书



我不在乎评价



I write a book and I'm not concerned about evaluation


不管它是好是坏



我当然想变得越来越好



whether it's good or bad - of course I want to be better and


better


但这并不影响我对自己的感觉



but that doesn't affect how I feel about myself


我就是我



I simply exist


我写了这本书



我处于心流状态



I write the book; I'm in a state of flow


我体验这种经历



experiencing the experience


至于这本书是不是比别人的好



In terms of whether it's better than others


或者比我以前写的好



or better than I've written


这都不重要



it doesn't matter


我高兴的是



What I'm happy about


我写成了一本书



what makes me happy is bringing a good book into existence


如果别人也写了一本书



And I would be as happy


我也会同样替他感到高兴



if someone else wrote the book


193


别人写了一本更好的书



我会同样高兴



甚至更高兴



I'd be as happy or happier that someone else wrote a better


book


这本书更能帮助到人



that can help others more


这个模型有很重要的一点是需要明白的



Important thing to understand about this model


我们从很小的年纪开始就有这三层自尊



the


three


levels


is


that


we


all


have


all


three


basically


from


a


very young age


并非只有达赖喇嘛或特蕾沙修女



It's not that the Dalai Lama or Mother Teresa


曼德拉或者玛格丽特米德



or Nelson Mandela or Margaret Mead


这样的名人



that people who we know have been


才是自我实现的人



are self-actualized


他们并不是不在乎别人的看法



it's not that they don't care about what other people say


但他们



However, they are mostly


大部分时候



most of their lives, most of the time


都是自己决定的



做自己相信的事



self- determined - do what they believe in


和他人相互联系



feel a sense of connection to others


想让世界变得更美好



want to make the world a better place


但他们并非不在乎



But it's not that they don't care


并非他们评价自己时不会跟自己比较



it's


not


that


they


don't


evaluate


themselves


relative


to


themselves


也不会跟他人比较



or relative to others


这是人的天性



That's part of human nature


我犯过一个错误



当我开始这个研究时



My error, when I started with this research


我跟自己说



was that I said to myself



好的



我想有独立型自尊



当后来我明白无条件型自尊是什么时



and later when I understood what unconditional self-esteem < /p>


我说



我想有无条件型自尊



I said,


我把这两种自尊列为好的



And I situated those two on the good side


把依赖型自尊列为坏的



and dependent self-esteem, bad


结果呢


?


And what then happened?


只加剧了我对他人的依赖



It only intensified my dependency on others


因为当我们有违天性时



Because when we fight nature


天性就会跟我们作对



我们赢不了



nature fights back and we can't win


就像第二节课一样



You know, it's like going back to the second class


如果我跟自己说



If I say to myself



别紧张



别紧张



别心急




结果呢


?


我看到粉红色大象出来了



What happens? The pink elephants begin to come out


我变得更焦虑更紧张了



And I become even more anxious and more nervous


但当我接受这种天性时



whereas I accept it is part of my nature


放任它



不强求自己



Let it be




permission to be human


它就顿时威力大减



It loses a lot of its vitality and force and control


因为我可以说



Cause I can say



好的



这个人不喜欢我的书



我无所谓




不喜欢我的课



无所谓



didn't like my class


我接受它



这是天性



我会伤心



And I accepted it, It's nature, It hurts me


我当然想他们都喜欢



I would much rather that they all like it


但转念一想



我就想通了



But I can move on then, and said



我要怎样做才能活出自我


?



我作为一个老师要怎样才能被了解



How can I the teacher who is known as opposed


而不是整天想着得到别人的认同


?


to constantly concerned about validation?


积极接受



回顾一下



Active acceptance. Revisited


接受我的天性



然后决定



Accepting my nature and then deciding


最合适的做法是什么



what would the most appropriate action to take


我的榜样之一是


Warren Bennis


One of the, my role models is Warren Bennis


Warren Bennis


在领导才能这个领域



Warren Bennis has done a lot of research and a lot of speaking


做过很多研究



演讲和工作



and a lot of work in the area of leadership


他先在南加州大学教旁听课



He teaches audit in University of Southern California


后来才来哈佛和麻省理工



was before he was at Harvard and MIT


他来哈佛商学院教了三年



And he came to Harvard Business School for three years


第一年



作为一个客座教授



and the first year - as a visiting professor


第一年我上了他的班



The first year I took his class


一次非常特别的经历



which was an extraordinary experience


第二年他教那个班时



The second year when he taught it


我当了他的助教



I was his teaching assistant


我经常和他一起工作



互动



And I used to work a lot with him and interact with him

< br>我经常为


Warren


折服



and was constantly amazed by Warren


Warren


当时


80




他现在


83

岁了



Warren, at the time was 80 years old - now he's



他走进教室时



整间教室都亮了起来



would walk into the room and the room would light up


他的微笑



姿势



直率



It was his smile, his posture, his openness


他丰富的表达



his expressiveness


都是为了和同学发生互动



was there about his interacting with people


他的一举一动让其他人



and making the other person just by being there


对自己感觉更好了



feel better about themselves


他自信坚强



And he was confident and strong


我把这样的人视为自我实现的人



and what I would classify as self- actualized as a person


他有很高的无条件自尊



with very high unconditional self-esteem


我们走得很近



他在很多方面都给了我帮助



And we became very close and he helped me in many areas


最大的帮助就是他活出自我



我观察他



most of all just by being himself - me observing him


学习他



吸收他给这个世界带来的东西



learning from him, assimilating what he had to give the world


吸收他每天给数百万读他的书的人



and what he was giving day in and day out


听他演讲的人



to thousands and millions of people who have read his books


和他有过接触的人



who have been to his lectures


所带来的知识



who've had the privilege of interacting with him


几年后



有一天



And one day after a couple of years


我是他的助教



I was his TA


我们关系很亲近



and we were close


我跟他说



I said to him



你是怎么变成现在这样的

< p>
?



你是怎么变成现在这样的


?


How is it that you are like this?


他的回应时



把手放在我肩膀



And his response was put his hand on my shoulder


看着我



带着一个平静



looked at me with his calm


接受



慷慨的微笑





accepting, giving smile, and said



我不是一出 生就这样的




他就只说了这一句



And that's where he left it


这就是我需要听到的答案



And this is what I needed to hear


因为在他的回答里



Because in his response


有很多重要的信息



where two very important - many more


而最重要的两个信息是



but two very important messages


第一个



他是慢慢进步成这样的



the first message is that it evolves


需要时间



你不会在

< br>20


岁时



或者


40


岁时



it takes time; you don't become third level


一夜之间



去到第三层自尊



self- actualized individual overnight at the age of



变成一个自我实现的人



or even at the age of



需要时间



需要下功夫



It takes time; it takes work; it takes self-awareness


需要一次次跌倒和站起来



it takes falling down and getting up


学会失败



learning to fail


然后从失败中学习



then learning from that failure


需要学习接受自己



It takes learning to accept oneself


需要敞开心扉



接受伤害



犯错



it takes being open and being vulnerable and making mistakes


需要做一个彻彻底底的人



it takes being human, fully human


我不是一出生就这样的



I was not always like this


他的回答中第二个信息是



The second message that I got from this


Warren


很真诚



is that Warren was genuine


他很真实



他没有跟我说



He was real. He didn't say to me



别夸我




我也不是很厉害



过奖了



Not really. Come on. Thank you


他没有这样



But no


他很真诚



他知道自己的价值



He was real. He knows his worth


他自信



He's confident


他没有虚伪的谦虚



There was no false modesty involved


这让我想起



and it reminded me


当我开始思考自尊时



that when I started to think about self-esteem


自尊的真正意义



and the true meaning of self-esteem


Branden


的著作中所写的意义



as you read in Branden's work


对了



他和


Nathaniel Branden


是好朋友



by the way, he and Nathaniel Branden are good friends


当我开始读


Branden


的著作时< /p>



When I started reading Branden


当我明白真正的自尊是什么时



and when I realized what real self- esteem was about


我明白有高自尊的人都是谦虚的



I


realized


that


people


with


high


levels


of


self- esteem


are


modest


你不需要显摆



You don't have the need to show off


你们知道



自大



You know, arrogance


自恋是自尊的对立



narcissism is the exact opposite of self-esteem


目中无人



自以为是



hubris, foolish pride is the exact opposite


跟真正意义上的自我感是完全对立的



of what a true sense of self is


所以当我明白了这点以后



So when I understood that


我的一个重要目标就是变得



one of my important goals was to become


谦虚



最重要的目标



more importantly to be - modest


所以我越来越觉得



And it was incredibly important for me


要让大家都知道我很谦虚



that everyone knows how modest I was


英国哲学家


Francis Bacon




You know. Francis Bacon, the British philosopher


谦虚不过是换了个法子在显摆而已



said that modesty is but another form of ostentation


这句话用在我身上最合适不过了



And for me that certainly was the case


但对别人来说不总是这样



it's not always the case


我认为


Warren Bennis


是真正的谦虚



I think Warren Bennis is modest and truly modest


我认为曼德拉



I think Nelson Mandela


当他谦虚时



他是真正的谦虚



when he is being modest, he really is modest


但问题是



你怎样才能达到那种层次的谦虚


?


But the question is: how do you get to that level of modesty?


你要达到那种层次的谦虚



方法就是活出自我



And you get to this level of modesty by being authentic


活得真实



by being real


走完这个过程



by going through the process


这个过程就像我们上节课说的那样



And the process in many ways as we described last time


就像学习走路



is like learning how to walk


我们刚生出来时



Initially when we are born


我们连走路是什么都不知道



we have no idea what walking even is


但慢慢地



Then later on


我们能站起来



we are able to get up


但我们需要别人扶着



but we need support either of another person


或者靠着什么东西



or something to lean on


例如



我们靠着桌子小心地走出第一步



And


we


take


our


first


precarious


steps


around


a


desk,


for


example


慢慢地我们可以自己走了



And after a while we can walk without help


但我们还是要想着每一步怎么迈



But we are still thinking about every step


我们跌倒了就再爬起来



and we fall down and get up again


学会失败



或者一错再错



learn to fail or fail to learn


然后我们继续走



And then we continue walking


我们心里时刻想着怎么抬起这条腿



and we are very conscious of how we pick up this leg


当你观察婴儿学走路时



When you watch a baby learn how to walk


会觉得很神奇



it's fascinating


他们需要调动很多东西



才能完成



So many things have come together for this simple


这么简单的一个动作



seemingly simple action


过了一段时间后



And then after a while


婴儿变得更自信了



the baby becomes more confident


她开始跑了



And she begins to run


她不再想着怎么走或跑



And she no longer has to think about walking or running


因为她自然地



because then she naturally


就会走了



she simply walks


自我感也是这样



一开始



Same with the sense of self: initially


我们没有自我感



we have no sense of self


区分不开





和妈妈



there's no differentiation between the


或者世界上其他物件



or other objects in the world


慢慢地我们发展出自我感



Gradually, we develop a sense of self


但这个自我感是完全依赖外界的



but that sense of self is completely dependent


不管是身体上还是心理上



physically as well as psychologically


我们都依赖于父母



we are dependent on our parents


重要的大人



significant adults


哥哥或姐姐



older sibling


然后过了一段时间



And then after a while


通常是到我们进入青春期后



that usually happens when we are teenagers


我们开始获得独立



we begin to assert our independence


这时我们开始渴望



That's when we begin to desire


听到自己的声音



want to hear our own voice


想让别人听到自己的声音



want to make our own voice heard


青春期这段时间很难



That's the difficult teenage years


对青少年来说难



difficult for the teenager


对父母来说也难



difficult for the parent


但这是自然的



But it's natural


是进化的必经步骤



It's part of evolution


这时候我们需要我们的界限



And we need our boundaries at that time


但同时



And at the same time


我们有时候又需要打破界限



we need to sometimes break boundaries


我们需要试探现实



We need to test reality


确定自我



Assert ourselves


然后随着时间过去



And then over time


如果我们这么做



when we do that


随着时间过去



我们同时开始一个新过程



over time we begin a new process simultaneously


这个过程就是真正的分化



And that is the process of real differentiation


这时候独立的自我变得太强烈



where the independent self becomes so strong


我们能够和他们联系



that we are able to connect to others as well


再一次



引用回讲恋爱课的内容



Once again, going back to relationship


Nathaniel Branden


说过



我们越独立



Nathaniel Branden: the more independent we become


我们就越互相依存



the more interdependent we can be


然后我们进步



这需要很长时间



And then we evolve and that takes a long time


如果我们没有依赖的一面



例如



And


if


we


have


missed


out


on


the


dependent


side




for


example


如果我们年少时没有得到任何赞扬



if we didn't get any accolades and any praise


或者用


Carl Rogers


的话来说无条件的



and unconditional self-regard in the words of Carl Rogers


自我关注



when we are younger


我们就会有这个需求



回忆一下那个渐成模型



then we have that need - remember the model of epigeneti


我们不能跳过一层



we can't jump over a stage


通常我们需要一个治疗师



And very often it would take a therapist


帮助我们找到无条件的自我关注



to provide us with unconditional self-regard


这样我们就能到达下一层



so that we can go to the next level


或者我们需要一段关系



Or we need a relationship


或几段关系帮助我们培养无条件的自我关注



or relationships where we cultivate unconditional self-regard


这样我们就能到达下一层



so that we can go to the next stage


如果…



And if we were


如果我们在青少年时期



when we were teenagers


不停地有人叫我们安静



constantly told to be quiet


守规矩



阻止我们确立自我



to behave, prevented from asserting ourselves


活出自我



being ourselves


那么我们就不可能顺利地



then we are unlikely to get to the next level


到达下一层



in a smooth way


通常在以后的生活里



我们需要做的事就是



And then very often later on in life we need to do


首先要确立自己



that first to assert ourselves


就像青少年那样



like teenagers did or do


这样就能到达下一层



so that we can make it to the next level


但不管怎样



这个过程不会顺顺利利



But regardless this is not a smooth transition


为什么


?


因为天下没有完美的父母



Why? Because there are no perfect parents


因为天下没有完美的成长环境



because there is no perfect environment


没有完美的老师帮助我们自然而顺利地



there are no perfect teachers and for us to evolve naturally


通过这些阶段



and smoothly through the stages


这是不现实的



it's just unrealistic


在地球上不存在



doesn't exis, not here on earth


我们在艰苦中随着时间进步



And then we evolve over time through the hardships


克服困难



through the difficulties


犯错



跌倒



making mistakes, falling


再爬起来



getting up again


慢慢地独立的自我



gradually the interdependent self


无条件的自尊开始浮现



the unconditional self-esteem emerges


我们对自己更有自信



And we feel much more comfortable in our skin


Maslow


说他没见过



Maslow said that he didn't find people



45


岁以下就自我实现的人



below the age of 45 who were self-actualized


即使是那些自我实现的人



And even those self-actualized people


仍然有残留的一丝丝独立型自尊



still have remnants of independent


和依赖型自尊



as well as dependent self-esteem


这种自尊是不会彻底消失的



It never really goes away


但它这时变弱了



But it's only weaker now


它不占主导地位



这时的人不再执着于



It's not dominant; it's not what they are about


获得更多赞扬



the next accolade, the next praise


当别人不喜欢他们时就伤心欲绝



being devastated when someone doesn't like them


当自己不是最好时就伤心欲绝



being devastated when they are not the best


他们接受了



他们会说



They accept it. They say



赢了固然是好



赢不了也无所谓




然后他们会继续前进



And then they move on


他们会问



And they ask



我怎样才能让世界变得更美好


?



我怎么把积极情绪带给别人


?


How can I be a conduit for positive emotions?


Maslow


没见过


45


岁以下自我实现的人



Maslow didn't find anyone below the age of



Schnarch


说要到五六十岁时



Schnarch talks about how it's in the 50s and 60s


人才分化



that the individuals become differentiated


才到酝酿出一段关系中最高层次的感情



and


where


the


highest


potential


for


passion


relationship


需要时间



within


a


is


It takes time


我不是一生下来就这样的



I was not always this way


正如


Bennis


指出



不是一生下来就这样的



it was not always like this as Bennis pointed out


非常重要的一个道理



very important lesson


很多人都问这个理论是不是放之四海皆准



Many people ask about the universal nature of this theory


因为你们知道



独立



because you know independence is very much


或者说个人主义



是西方文化



or individualism is very much a Western construct


或者说美国文化



西欧文化



or American, West European construct


如果你去非洲



这会很不同



You know you go to Africa - very differen


群体的概念



the concept of we of a group


比个体的概念更重要



is much more central to who they are


如果大家去亚洲



You go to Asia



我们



的概念



集体的概念



the concept of the we, collectivism


群体的概念比个体的概念更重要



the group is much more central to who they are


那在其他地方呢


?


So what about other areas?


这是一个专属西方的理论吗


?


Is this a Western centric theory?


答案是

< p>


不一定



And the answer is


如果我们的目标是完全自我实现



You see, if our goal is to become fully actualized


或者用


Rogers

< br>的话来说



or to strive toward that


在成为一个人的过程中



to be in the process of becoming a person


向着这个目标奋进



in the words of Rogers


那么最后



then the final


互相依存这个最后阶段对所有文化来说都一样



that final stage of interdependence is same in all cultures


所有文化都重视这一点



All cultures value it


他们同样重视这一点



They value it just the same


不同文化的人



这个过程可能看起来不同



the process may look different for a person in Japan


日本人



美国人



and for a person in United States


埃及人



以色列人



for a person in Israel or Egypt


津巴布韦人



都各不相同



compared to a person living in Zimbabwe


这个过程看起来不同



The process may look different


但它有很多相同之处



However, it will have many similarities


我在第三节课时讲过达赖喇嘛



Remember I talked about the Dalai Lama on the third class or


so


他说他发现西方心理的一个问题是



who


said


that


one


of


the


problems


he


sees


in


Western


psychology


我们太着重文化差异了



is that we focus too much on cultural differences


达赖喇嘛是一个



And again, Dalai Lama is very


文化触觉非常敏锐的人



extremely sensitive culturally


他说差异确实存在



我们需要学习它们



But he says there are differences; we need to study them


但与此同时



At the same time


我们更需要学习相同之处



we need to study even more so the similarities


正是这些相同之处把我们联合起来



that which brings us together


团结起来



that unites us


而且相同之处多不胜数



And there are a lot of similarities


希望不久的将来会有越来越多人研究



And hopefully soon there'll be more and more research


这个话题



并把它应用于不同的文化中



on this topic applying it to different cultures and twigging


看看它与西方文化以外的世界有什么联系



and seeing how it relates outside the Western tradition


因为我等一下提到的大部分研究



Cause most of the research that I'll mention in a minute


都是在美国做的



has been done in United States


有一些是在英国



some of them in UK


如果能看看别的地方这个过程是如何的



那会很有趣



Will


be


interesting


to


see


what


the


process


looks


elsewhere


但它的核心是



But at its core, at its core


相似多于差异



it is much more similar than different


为什么独立很重要


?


Why is it important to be independent?


为什么我们要奋力地达到独立阶段


?


Why is it that we should strive for this evolution?


为什么我们不应该遵从他人



Shouldn't we stay of the conformity


like


依赖外界


?


dependence level?


我的理由



以及很多研究结果



Now I will argue and the research


还有很多历史事件都表明



shows as well as historical incidents show that


培养独立是我们培养相互依存的



it is important to cultivate independence as a way


一个重要途径



to cultivate interdependence


首先



First of all


因为道德行为



because of moral behavior


如果大家想想历史上最可怕的暴行



if you think about the worst atrocities throughout history


历史上最可怕的暴行



the worst atrocities throughout history


正是那些遵从他人



were conducted by people conforming


服从权威的人犯下的



by obedience to authority


那些种族主义或民族主义的信念和行为导致的



and by racist or ethnocentric beliefs and behaviors


现在来看看我刚才提到的三件事



Now look at these three things that I just


服从权威



一个人



obedience to authority - a person


如果有很高的依赖性自尊



with high dependence self-esteem


就越有可能服从



is much more likely to be obedient


权威人物



to an authority figure


为什么


?


因为这样的人寻求赞扬



Why? Because he or she seeks accolades


他们寻求认同



they seek approval


他们没有强烈的自我感



They don't feel strong enough themselves


他们需要一个有魅力的领袖告诉他们



They need that very charismatic leader to tell them



你真棒



你真厉害



你太了不起了



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